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Below is a short but complete program that I am working on.
It creates an object, initializes the data and prints the data.
In the class method initV, before the call to PBHGetVInfo,
the dubugger shows that all my class members have reasonable
values. After the call to PBHGetVInfo, the dubugger shows
all the class members with the value "bus error". This looks
like the memory for my class was moved by PBHGetVInfo. The manual
says that to get relocatable objects, you need to specify that
explicitly, (__machdl). Can someone point out my error?
I am using Symantec C++ 7.0.4. On a Performa 476 (68K).
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The problem is that I cant find the way to catch that buffer in the middle
of the code and change it. For example I have to change de ASCII 22 by 30.
I want to know if I am using the wrong instructions, or if I can examine a
20k buffer to change something.
Thanks.
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>From BREWSKI@twics.com Thu Mar 14 01:04:14 PST 1996
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:07:41 +0900 (JST)
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Subject: Difference between 68K and Power Mac?
Could someone tell me what I should look out for if I am creating
a 68K application to run on a normal Macintosh and a Power PC(emulation
mode)
Using Think C 7.06 I created a Tiff viewer that opens a tiff file and
displays it in a window and it worked with no problems on an MacIIFX,
Quadra's etc.However if I run it on a Power Mac the image does not
relate to the Tiff File ie a Tiff file containing of only a red image
(no drawings,no lines,just red) is shown properly on the 68K machine
but on a Power Mac it comes out as vertical Black and White vertical
lines.
What should I check for in my program to make it 68K and Power Mac
compatible???
>From BREWSKI@twics.com Thu Mar 14 19:04:24 PST 1996
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:07:58 +0900 (JST)
To: THINK-C@rdatasys.com
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Subject: CopyBits Problem
Please Help!! I am on a deadline and I cannot find a solution to this
problem!!!!!
I have tracked the problem with the TIFF viewer that works properly on
normal Macs but not PowerMacs to one
line,The CopyBits Function.
If I use the below code for Copying a pixmap of
(0x3C,0x3C,0x3C,0x3C,0x3C...) etc from a CGrafPtr to a Gworld
on a Standard Mac the GWorld PixMap is also (0x3C,0x3C,0x3C,0x3C,0x3C...)
but if I use the same code on a Power Mac the GWorld PixMap is
void CopyPix2World ( CGrafPtr pixMap, GWorldPtr world )
{
CGrafPtr pOldPort ;
GDHandle pOldDevice ;
PixMapHandle MyPixMapHandle;
GetGWorld(&pOldPort,&pOldDevice);
SetGWorld(world,0);
MyPixMapHandle = GetGWorldPixMap(world);
LockPixels(MyPixMapHandle);
EraseRect(&world->portRect);
SetGWorld(pOldPort,pOldDevice);
CopyBits( &((GrafPtr)pixMap)->portBits,
&((GrafPtr)world)->portBits,
&pixMap->portRect,
&pixMap->portRect,
srcCopy,
0);
if (QDError()) DoAlert("\p QDError"); <--No error
SetGWorld ( pOldPort, pOldDevice ) ;
UnlockPixels(world->portPixMap);
}
It has been 3 days now and I am nowhere nearer a solution. )-:
Give a Mac programmer newbie a break!
>From shyamala27.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in Sun Mar 17 20:10:48 PST 1996
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Thank you.
>From Jay.Betrug@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com Sun Mar 17 23:38:26 PST 1996
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There is currently a proposal for the newsgroup rec.music.white-power,
an attempt by neo-nazi racists to legitimize their activities. It is now
in the CFV stage, where anyone with a valid e-mail address may vote.
"White power" racist music is not a legitimate form of music deserving of
a separate rec.music newsgroup, but rather a political group masquerading
as a musical one. And, the rec.* hierarchy is inappropriate because rec.*
is for recreational activities, and racism is anything but recreational.
But, most importantly, we must show the racists that they will not be
granted a mainstream forum in order to promote hate. If you don't want
a Usenet where minorities feel unwelcome and uncomfortable, vote NO on
rec.music.white-power. Let's make this a crushing defeat for racists.
To vote, send e-mail to music-vote@sub-rosa.com and put
I vote NO on rec.music.white-power
in the body of the message.
The actual CFV can be found on news.announce.newsgroups,
or by sending a blank e-mail to music-cfv@sub-rosa.com.
Voting ends 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Mar 1996, so act quickly!
>From dnebing@epix.net Mon Mar 18 06:46:54 PST 1996
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First of all thanks to every one. Im new in c for mac, and this list is a
bendition to me.
Now, one only question.
When you make a source of a program you use handles and pointers. OK. The
question is if I HAVE to "dispose" that handles and pointers, or the
application automatically cleans the memory it used when quit.
Thanks.
Fernando.
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>From MacMedic@aol.com Tue Mar 19 12:55:50 PST 1996
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It is always ALWAYS good pratice to clean up after yourself.
Both in real life and within the Mac O/S.
Remember the next version of the MAC O/S may not do the sames
things in the same way, save your self a headache.
You are responsible for your code, all your code.
MacMedic
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First of all thanks to every one. Im new in c for mac, and this list is a
bendition to me.
Now, one only question.
When you make a source of a program you use handles and pointers. OK. The
question is if I HAVE to "dispose" that handles and pointers, or the
application automatically cleans the memory it used when quit.
Thanks.
Fernando.
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>From lucy27@track.uwra.ac.au Sun Mar 24 04:07:44 PST 1996
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1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you
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Hi fellow 'netters,
My name is Lucy Whitten and I recently started using a magazine
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They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
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The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
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all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
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>From malmgren@euronet.nl Sun Mar 24 23:59:48 PST 1996
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For some time we get a 13k big automatic emails from someone sending
chain-emails. It has nothing to do with mac. It has nothing to do with
programming. It has nothing to do with symantecs products. It has nothing
to do with think c/c++. Every 14 days or something we get the same email.
Could you please kick this magazine-auto-posting-thing out from this list?
The emails comes from Lucy Whitten <lucy27@track.uwra.ac.au> (Fake address
bouncing everything back. If you exist Lucy: Exit to shell)
/Jens Malmgren, the Netherlands.
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PS1: I think most of the programmers here have got enough chances to use
contact this magazine if they wanted.
PS2: Did you not want someone else to take over this list? How is that going?
PS3: I like the rest of the postings to this list. Keep it up folks!
>From nagel@intelenet.net Mon Mar 25 09:24:37 PST 1996
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To: think-c@rdatasys.com
Subject: Re: Kick it out now!
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In-reply-to: Jens Malmgren's message of Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:59:01 +0100.
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:30:09 PST
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From: "Mark D. Nagel" <nagel@intelenet.net>
On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:59:01 +0100 Jens Malmgren wrote:
For some time we get a 13k big automatic emails from someone
sending chain-emails. It has nothing to do with mac. It has
nothing to do with programming. It has nothing to do with
symantecs products. It has nothing to do with think c/c++. Every
14 days or something we get the same email. Could you please kick
this magazine-auto-posting-thing out from this list?
I had hoped it would just go away, but clearly it has not. I have
taken steps to prevent messages from that address from showing up on
the list. Note that spammers who forge addresses can defeat these
measures pretty easily. Let's just cross our fingers.
Mark
>From ken.brockman@aplmail.jhuapl.edu Mon Mar 25 10:08:15 PST 1996
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>I had hoped it would just go away, but clearly it has not. I have
>taken steps to prevent messages from that address from showing up on
>the list. Note that spammers who forge addresses can defeat these
>measures pretty easily. Let's just cross our fingers.
Does one of your measures require the poster to be a member of the list?
It seems to me that that would stop anyone not on the list from spamming us
and if they first try to subscribe and their subscription reply bounces
then do not add them to the list. I don't know how easily such a scheme
can be automated but maybe the listserver developers would be interested in
adding such a feature.
-- Ken Brockman, JHU/APL, 301-953-5505
>From rtt@synapse.net Fri Mar 29 16:28:39 PST 1996
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It seems that ANSI expects sizeof to an int, and Think C has it defined as
unsigned long.
What is the solution here? More specifically, is there an option or a
pre-processor flag that I should set to make Think C treat sieof as an int?
I definately would appreciate some guidance if possible.
Thankyou, Richard Tomkins
This MIND left BLANK INTENTIONALLY!
>From raz@wolfram.com Fri Mar 29 17:36:47 PST 1996
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